Post by Cydrome LeaderPost by Canuck57Post by Cydrome LeaderPost by happytodayDear all,
I am searching a protocol for transffrring files other than ftp
between windows and Solaris 10.
I search command line like rcp but , rcp is between unix platforms
only .
If non exist . Can I put ftp commands in a shell script as non-
interactive command.
Thanks
scp or sftp works if you just want to manually move some stuff around
from time to time. There are various SCP and SFTP clients for windows.
for things more like real file sharing, there is samba (garbage product)
or NFS. pcnfs is required for this, and while sun doesn't talk about it
anymore, it can still be compiled easily for solaris 10. I posted the
steps somewhere on the sun developer website.
NFS on windows requires a NFS client, there are no free NFS clients that
actually work correctly. Attachmate/ WRQ seems to write the only
functional on there is these days.
It sounds complex, but is still less of a hassle then fucking around with
samba.
You are obviously a Windoze home boy. Not only is Samba more capable to
A windows home boy that says samba sucks and uses NFS? You're kidding,
right?
Post by Canuck57be more secure it is also faster than what you suggest. Benchmarks of
Samba show Samab to be a better CIFS server than Windoze and in fact
almost all commercial vendors products are based on it's works somehow.
Got it, you grabbed a real windows server that's part of AD and installed
samba on it, shut off windows shares and found better performance as well
as 100% drop in compatibility.
Post by Canuck57NFS to Windblows is INSECURABLE. I can't tell you how many times I have
I can't help you if you live in flat 1980s network.
Post by Canuck57ethically hacked both Windows and UNIX this way. Oh, our site is
Ha, you're an "ethical hacker" now, whatever the hell that's supposed to
mean. Did you read about that on Wired or see it on cnn?
Post by Canuck57secure, and I find NFS to Windows and I smile as I am minutes away from
proving them dead wrong.
scp/sftp is about the most secure but not always the easiest to use.
Plus it's way slow, but hey, who am I to challenge an ethical hacker who
saw a benchmark somewhere and can call out a windows fan that's a
proponent of NFS.
Post by Canuck57As for WRQ, piece of over priced crap. Load a VM like VirtualBox or
VMWare, run a Linux in there and it can access both at the same time.
That is, mount the local Windows and the UNIX via NFS, and use NIS+ or
something for file ownerships. As that is where NFS by itself falls
apart. With NFS only, your files invariable wind up root 0777 and 3777
is often possible.
Talk about complicated hack job to see a few files. Let me guess, the
original poster should do all this from virtual PC on his mac, right?
Probably could, although I don't own a Mac, I don't see why one could not.
The example I gave was real but for the VM. A sole Linux box. The
organization had a real problem getting files too and from various
systems including Novell, HP-UX, Solaris, AIX, MS-Windows and Linux.
Solution was to have Linux setup with connections to them all and shares
to MS-Windows boxes. Each day users dropped files into known shares
where cron scripts would pick them up for processing and spin of the
needed files for various platforms. Since the scripts could see Novell
storage, copy of the results to multiple places became trivial.
For example, Sama can export an NFS share. Say a file was for Solaris.
Have a share called /ForSolaris/ - User sends to ti Linux, which puts
in on a Solaris boxen over NFS, one step on one well known well
supported gateway.
Linux was chosen as it can actually mount a NTFS/CIFS share. So if a
daily file gets generated on HP-UX or Solaris it can be sent to
MS-Windboze quite easily. It was the grease between the systems for
files and didn't need 5000 users to learn FTP, load WRQ or anything.
Just natvely map a drive.
Post by Cydrome LeaderAlso, I can't wait to "run a linux in there" and all those other technical
things. Nothing like rolling back time with some NIS+ too.
I am not an OS bigot and believe run the right OS for the job. But
MS-Windows is often far too oversold as a server. Scales like
CE+ME+ME+NT and now Vista slow.
Post by Cydrome LeaderDid you already forget the original poster is running solaris?
Nope. Except for mounting a MS-Windows drive directly to the Solaris
file system, it should work. Could be someone has added this too. But
nothing to stop MS-Windows clients fom doing the same with Solaris.
Post by Cydrome LeaderSo, they're supposed to install linux, or windows, then vmware or virtual
PC, then reinstall their solaris inside that to share files?
Not necessarily. I just exemplied it. Many shows run stuff in VMs for
application seperation, and some IIS server idling away all day is kind
of stupid not to VM it. Similarily low use Linux or Solaris apps. Not
every host has a 20TB DB crunching around the clock. A VM or two should
be in every IT skillset today.
Unless you are an OS bigot that is. On one VM or host or another I have
Solaris 9, 10, Linux RH, Fedora, Suse, Ubuntu, OpenBSD, XP, W2003,
Vista. I don't run AIX or HP-UX as I am not going to buy vendor sloted
hardware any more.
Post by Cydrome LeaderOr did I get that wrong? Maybe they should install linux, then vmware then
move their windows over into at VM there.
Lots of shops do. Run Linux/VM as the host. Then have Linux, varieties
of Windows and even Solaris in the VMs. Makes backing up and recovery a
trivial excercise. Take snapshots at 11:30pm, backup just the VM. Some
just copy it off into an offsite system where it is backed up.
Truly, but one needs to think "enterprise" and be open to use the best
tools that fit the situation. But far too many zealots slot themselves
into myopic thinking and declare themselves a "<insert vendor> shop".
I really embarased a Microsoft sales type once. Claimed Linux was junk
and useless. So I asked him if he liked his cell phone, and at home if
he used wireless. And how many PCs he had.
I looked it up, his cell was Linux as was his WAP (busybox based). He
had only one laptop. So the next time we met I pointed this out right
after his next Linux chirp that he ran more instances of Linux than
MS-Windows. I think he felt 1" tall.
There is more open source and Linux everywhere than people will admit.
Post by Cydrome LeaderI need a systems architect for some upcoming projects that need to cost
too much and end up too complex to ever complete. Are you for hire?
LOL. I don't think you need me, the above only took 50 days to rock
solid and I did it as a side to the HP-UX, Solaris and Firewall/DNS
stuff. I am busy until next spring and no shortage of work. But who
knows, after I finish a current rollout which is going smoothly ... if
someone offered me work at home.... I am getting tired of the traveling
part. I don't cost too much, just that I get results when others that
cost less don't. You get what you pay for if the person isn't a liar
about their past. Lots of that in this business.