Post by Jeff WielandPost by Jeff WielandSo, since Sun/Oracle no longer sells the CPU Fan/Heatsink modules for
the V125/V210/V240, we're wondering what people are doing to replace
failed fans on them. The refurbished modules that we've seen appear
to not have the TIM[1|2] intact, so they don't seem to be a viable
option either.
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Post by Jeff WielandEach module has two 25mm fans attached to one end that blow air
across the heat sink and under a shroud. They were used on the
V125, the V210, and the V240, and maybe some other machines
as well. The slower processors used TIM1 as the heat sink compound,
and the faster ones (1.333Ghz and 1.5Ghz) used TIM2. Sun quit selling
these modules around Dec. 2008. Generally speaking, removing the
module from the processor seems to screw up the TIM such that it
would need to be replaced with the correct stuff.
If you're really curious, the document for replacing the module is at
<http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19102-01/n210.srvr/
817-4048-13/817-4048-13.pdf>
Thanks!
O.K. So "TIM" stands for "Thermal Interface Material" -- in
other words heat sink compound with more pretentious phrasing. :-)
Based on the descriptions, I suspect that the TIM2 would work
for the earlier systems as well, as long as the CPU and heatsink
surfaces are properly cleaned.
From the description of the TIM2, it sounds like a heat sink
compound with powdered silver included to maximize the heat transfer.
The trick is to find out just what that is -- and the mentioned MSDS
(internal page number 6, PDF page number 8) might be helpful in that, if
you can still get that. The heat sink compound has to have come from
some source outside of Sun, and the trick is identifying it (and,
because of the MSDS mention, it *may* have been discontinued as a
product for safety reasons.
Anyway -- once you have a source for what Sun called "TIM2", it
is time to look for replacements for the fan modules. Newark and Mouser
are good places to start. You *might* have to splice the cables,
depending on what lengths and connectors come with the replacement fans.
Are these two-pin or three-pin connectors? (E.g. does the fan have a
tach feedback wire or not?)
Or -- are you needing certified replacement parts as part of a
service contract? I'm accustomed to looking at how to replace/repair
things even when they are no longer supported, but I work with the
computers at home, not in a business. :-)
Also -- can you access the screws securing the fans to the
heatsink modules without removing the modules? If so, you could perhaps
replace the fans while the heatsinks are still mounted to the CPUs. (I
see later in this e-mail that you intend to try this very thing.)
Post by Jeff WielandI can't believe that all the V240's have been retired... :-)
I'm sure that they have not. But Sun/Oracle *hopes* that they
will soon be retired, so they can sell new systems and new service
contracts. This sounds like a reasonable motivation for discontinuing
the service modules.
Post by Jeff WielandWe're probably going to try going the "replace the fan without
disturbing the heatsink route" if all else fails. Access to the
fan screws looks pretty tight though.
Ah good. You can. It looks as though CPU1 should be fairly
easy to get to, but CPU0 may be more difficult.
I picked up from MicroCenter a screwdriver set which includes
several small screwdriver bits of various styles, a magnifying glass, a
handle with a telescoping shank, and a flexible shaft perhaps 7" long
which can go between the handle and the bits. (It can go into the
socket in the shank, or with the shank removed, directly into the
handle. This might enable better control of the screw removal and
replacement process. There is no visible name on the kit, just a "Made
in Taiwan" sticker on the back. The top of the kit is transparent, and
the bottom a pale orange if this helps you to spot them. I got a couple
of extra of these kits which I used for Christmas Presents this last
Christmas. 7 each straight blade, four each Phillips bits (000 through
1, two Pozidrive bits (0 & 1) and 9 Torx and 8 Allen (hex) bits. Of
course, most of this kit does not matter, as long as you have the
handle, the flex shaft, and the right sized bit. :-)
Good Luck,
DoN.
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